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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Nov 6, 2008 8:30am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Political Challenge, Sorry.

Except that you've framed the debate to fit your argument. You've narrowed Obama's economic message down for him and set up a straw man situation. Why are trickle down and Kensyan our only 2 choices in this debate? Because you said so?

and since when are you the arbiter of saying that the economy is the only thing that matters? A lot of us care about a few other little things, like a war based on a lie (oh, right, according to your set-up I'm not allowed to talk about that, b/c Bush is history...funny thing about history...it has a habit of impacting the present and the future, but hey, that's just a trifling detail) that's still costing U.S. and Iraqi (but who cares about them, right?) lives and is pumping $10 Billion a month down the sinkhole.

Let's see.....what else did I foolishly care about when I voted? How about the environment, climate change, and civil liberties. But go ahead and bully everyone who disagrees with you about Joe the Plumber. And feel free to call me an asshole like you did last time I dared disagree with your opinion.

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Poster: BiscoBoy Date: Nov 6, 2008 8:40am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Political Challenge, Sorry.

In Earl's defense, I think he was being pretty objective about it.That's pretty tough, because this man (Barak) will never be viewed with objectivity.

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Poster: spacedface Date: Nov 6, 2008 10:20am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Political Challenge, Sorry.

Bisco, what's the name of your other tentacles?

I agree with Grendels Choice, there are more than 2 schools of economics, and many subs too. See for example,

"Coherently Yours: Professor Krugman’s Track Record of Economic Commentary"

http://blogs.zoho.com/in-the-news/coherently-yours-professor-krugmans-track-record-of-economic-commentary/

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Poster: BiscoBoy Date: Nov 6, 2008 10:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Political Challenge, Sorry.

Ozric annd Altenative

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Nov 6, 2008 10:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Political Challenge, Sorry.

pretty damn funny answer

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Nov 6, 2008 10:52am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: religion

http://www.archive.org/details/Tags12345-ATHEISTSINHELL660

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Poster: Earl B. Powell Date: Nov 6, 2008 8:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Political Challenge, Sorry.

Here I offered up an opportunity to legitimately discuss what is generally agreed to as the critical issue of the election in a non partisan way and you continue to rant. I suppose if the economy was not of import, you could vote the way you did for the reasons you specified. That's fine,it was your vote to spend. Furthermore, if you'd like to offer up additional economic models to consider, please do. I only mentioned supply side or "trickle down" because our president elect not only suggested but outright said it failed. As for the Keynesian model, it's what Obama brings to the table, pretty much by definition. Feel free to expand.

If you want to debate the other issues such as global warming and the environment, it will still be necessary to refer back to the economics involved. I believe you would be mistake if you believe that they exist outside the realm of economics. Just saying.



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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Nov 6, 2008 9:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: fuggetaboudit

Hey man, there will never be a civil and objective debate until we are all vulcans or cyborgs. Emotion trumps logic everytime, ever get in a fight with your a wife and wonder what the hell you are arguing about? Someone will mention socialism and others will harp on a red dress, even after they complained about hearing about blue a dress in the 90's. The spirit of co-operation is dead. I cannot even get people to stop attacking me and the losing side of an election with silly videos like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZZivl5iKCo

I am not pointing figures but some folks won't accept defeat or victory honorably and will continue to attack the messanger regardless of the message. It's instinctual and automatic from I see. I was pushed to the limit of sanity trying to get folks to see one point of dozens that should have concerned them if they even shared 10% of the same interest in the future of our country and it didn't work. In an epystemological alternate reality where truth is relative is where we exist now. I still have my cacti.


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Poster: spacedface Date: Nov 6, 2008 10:42am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: fuggetaboudit

>>>Here I offered up an opportunity to legitimately discuss what is generally agreed to as the critical issue of the election in a non partisan way and you continue to rant.>>>

The question itself was not legit!

If the right shared only 3% of the liberal love of the country and life itself, they'd hear bluebirds sing.

But seriously, why should the country rely on the same old stale economic advice? Daivid Stockman got into trouble for admitting they didn't really know what was going on with the numbers.

All of Greenspan's tricks were ideological and self-serving in try to avoid the business cycle; who really thinks they can avoid dynamics found in every living system?

As for globalization, it's unworkable unless there's very cheap energy. And there isn't.

This post was modified by spacedface on 2008-11-06 18:42:19

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Nov 6, 2008 10:53am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: fuggetaboudit

http://www.archive.org/details/RandolfeWicker-GAYFUNERALS139

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Poster: rastamon Date: Nov 6, 2008 9:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: fuggetaboudit



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QfEiDO9opg

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Nov 6, 2008 9:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Not silly enough

I feel a tingy feeling on my leg or something, thanks. I do like the brass comedic effect after the chorus though... sounds like a subliminal poke at the arguable emptiness of the statement.

Lennon was wise:

But when you talk about destruction
Don't you know that you can count me out
Don't you know it's gonna be alright

But if you want money for people with minds that hate
All I can tell you is brother you'll have to wait
Don't you know it's gonna be alright

But if you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao
You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow
Don't you know it's gonna be alright

A true skeptical and apprehensive caution of extremism...

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Poster: BiscoBoy Date: Nov 6, 2008 10:17am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: fuggetaboudit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZGKLmyTEoQ

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Nov 6, 2008 8:44am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Political Challenge, Sorry.

Straw man = Burning man = Smelly twirlers, glow sticks, bad ecstasy, too much dust = 2012 Republican Convention.

Hey, the last one didn't work out so well, try for something different. Connect with those wacky kids. Instead of $3,000 Chanel dresses, Palin should go for a $50 Hemp mumu.

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Nov 6, 2008 8:54am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Political Challenge, Sorry.

She'd be a great twirler if she ever got a hold of some good Alaskan weed and a Dark Star from '73.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Nov 6, 2008 10:55am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: wassssssssssup 2008

THAT'S what I'm talkin' about.

And shame on the first person who then suggests she should now camp out in an abandoned school bus in the middle of the Alaskan wilderness.

Or if you like nostalgia, beer and liberals:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndzWVnD7-vQ

UPDATE: Just released: this lost outtake from Obama's draft acceptance speech:
"I'll drink your health, share your wealth, run your life, steal your wife."

Wait, I think that was Clinton's.



Just kidding folks.


This post was modified by SomeDarkHollow on 2008-11-06 18:55:07

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Nov 6, 2008 4:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: wassssssssss really up 2008

And now for something different

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYpC0Uqu9Zs&;feature=related

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Poster: rastamon Date: Nov 7, 2008 7:29am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: wassssssssss really up 2008- Pato Banton refresher..

...and sing-a-long >>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rewSToCtdPg

btw, what is > "I quickly built up a five-sheeter"
(UK-rob?)

Now this one is dedicated to the people all over.
Remember the words of your crucial entertainer.
When I say: I do not sniff the coke I only smoke the sensimilla.

Without a doubt I am the boss, in my class I am the teacher.
If music is the fruit of life then I will be a reaper.
If M. C. business was a school then I would be head master
if a car I'd be the driver, if a bike I'd be the rider.
If M. C. business was a church Pato would be the vicar
then instead of calling me M. C. you all would call me preacher.
But fun and joke aside I want to get serious in this matter
and dedicate this style to each and every cocaine dealer.

In February 1985 Pato became a winner
because I did that tune called 'Allo Tosh Gotta Toshiba.
It shooted up the charts and nearly gave my mom heart failure.
She looked at me and said:

"Son me glad me grow you proper.
A son like you would be the pride and joy of any mother.
No make the fame get to your head just think about your future."

Those words of encouragement just made me push on further
to break down any walls and also break through any barrier.
I got a lot of guidance from G. T. who is my manager
assistance from Don Christie Fashion helped me cross the border.
I also got a lot of aid from good good sensimilla
that's why I do not snort the coke I only burn the Ganja.

One day I had to catch a train from Birmingham to London
half way on my journey was approached by this white roughian.
With greasy hair and scruffy jeans he looked just like a villain
he sat down opposite me with a Tennants [lager] in his right hand.
But I don't judge appearance I just check the way you galong
so I introduced myself to him as Mr. Pato Banton.

"Nice to meet ya, my name's Roadie and I work with P. A. Hire.
I've heard your name some place before but I just can't remember.
But anyway I'm very very very glad to meet ya.
And I've got some dope it's first class coke
you can have this for a fiver."

I looked down on the table and saw a piece of silver paper.
Inside this silver paper was some powder looked like flour.
Me asked: What it do for you? It give you strength and power?
Now everyone I want you to hear the way that roadie answered:

"Well Mr. Pato Banton the sensation is fine.
It makes me see green men and then I go to cloud nine.
All my worries and problems are left miles behind.
So no matter where I am I have a brilliant time.
If you don't believe me hold on and I'll fix you a line.
Just take one sniff of this and you'll be out of your mind."

But I took the coke and threw it right outside the carriage window.
Before he could say a word I quickly built up a five-sheeter
into my pocket for my sensi and my lighter.
I lit it with a flash and then to Roadie passed it over.
I could see that he was loving it because of his expression.
Me tell him: "This is sensi the healing of the nation.
In some places doctors use it for herbal medication.
Ronald Reagan smoke it just before him go pon television.
After Margaret Thatcher visit him she bring some back to England
then distributes it equally throughout the house commons.
But fun and joke aside it gives me deep deep meditation
it fills my heart with Niceness and I get nuff inspiration.
You could be any colour any creed or any nation
after smoking sensimilla I know you'll find the reason
why I do not sniff coke I only smoke sensimilla!


This post was modified by rastamon on 2008-11-07 15:29:52

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Poster: rastamon Date: Nov 6, 2008 9:15am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Political Challenge, Sorry.

i think she was here at a tender age of 16
http://www.archive.org/details/gd1980-06-21.mtx.dan.28475.sbeok.flac24

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Nov 6, 2008 9:20am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Political Challenge, Sorry.

Maybe that's where she got the "I can see Russia from my window" thing.

If I was at that show, I'm sure I would have been seeing some weird shit as well.

Once again, THAT'S what I'm talkin' about.